Belligerent Dumbass Even - Influence with Integrity or Malicious Manipulation

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The name says it all, doesn't it?  
+David Amerland and I will have a philosophical discussion on this topic.  The words come from a mouth of a 'successful Internet marketer', author and copywriter, who allegedly made millions.  He was in a hangout with someone I considered a friend, who relayed to him a comment of mine that was totally benign and was intended to be helpful... his response was a stunt where yours truly got called by the first 2 words in the heading here, with the 3rd word being how the whole thing got started.  Some of you may know who and what I'm talking about, but I tend to simply ignore people of such low caliber... that, however prompted me to have this conversation with someone of very high caliber - +David Amerland , someone I have an intense respect & admiration for, and discuss the fine line between attempts at honest & well-intentioned influence and malicious manipulation whose goal is strictly to make you part with your money, regardless of the human consequences of such actions.